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#28 Grokking Holochain
We talk with the Commercial Director of Holochain, David Atkinson about why he joined the Holo team, elements of Holochain, how they compare to the blockchain, & much more.
Jason & I talk with the Commercial Director of Holo/Holochain, David Atkinson. They cover what led David to the Holo team, systems thinking, biomimicry & evolution, the core elements of Holochain, how it compares to the blockchain, scalability, centralization vs decentralization, some potential impacts of this tech, its current phase of development, and much more.
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#27 The Future of Work
We talk with Paul Millerd about work & its connection to meaning & dignity, locality, work-life boundaries, work as service, group complexity, chaos, & much more.
Jason & I talk with Paul Millerd about his career path, Jared's recent leap to self-employment, the incentives of benefits & healthcare, history of firm-based vs contract work, expectations of work & its connection to meaning & dignity, local community, the boundary between work & life, basic income, consumerism, GDP determined lifestyles, shared local commons, self-determination theory, the 40-hour workweek, the pathless path, work as service, the complexity of teams & the role of chaos, and much more.
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If work dominated your every moment would life be worth living?
On Bullshit by Harry Frankfurt
Zachary Stein on The Musing Mind Podcast
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#26 The New Left
We talk with Michael Brooks about his show, why politics needs spirituality, markets vs capitalism, centralization vs decentralization, & much more.
Jason & I talk with Michael Brooks about what his show (TMBS) is about, his history with Integral Theory & meditation, his political perspective, the Kurdish situation in Rojava, dangers of idealism & ahistorical thinking, why politics needs spirituality, Michael's view on today's political narratives, his recent meditation retreat, how the Four Quadrants of Integral could impact political discourse, markets vs capitalism, centralization vs decentralization, fractal localism, and much more.
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Exiting the Vampire Castle by Mark Fisher
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#25 Horrorism & Culture
We talk with the anonymous horrorist, Zero about his new book, his creative process, the self & culture, contemplation, pain & suffering, hierarchies, cultural colonialism, & much more.
Jason & I talk with horrorist, Zero HP Lovecraft about why he started writing & where his alias came from, his new book, his creative process & influences, the horrorist aesthetic, the unknowability of our own values, the self & culture as software, media's impact on culture, his view on the future & contemplative development, euphoric depersonalization, the role of pain & suffering, societal hierarchies, cultural colonialism & design, chaos & order, and much more.
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#24 Religion, Creativity & Deleuze
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#24 Religion, Creativity & Deleuze
We talk with political scientist Justin Murphy about being an independent creator & a libertarian communist, human equality, his new book Based Deleuze, and more.
Jason & I talk with political scientist Justin Murphy about his path to becoming an independent artist & intellectual, what it means to him to be a libertarian communist, foundations of intrinsic human equality, his unique take on Gilles Deleuze in his new book Based Deleuze, creativity, Urbit and more.
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#23 Integral Psych & Culture
We talk with Integral Psychologist Mark Forman about Integral theory, how it informs his view of the IDW, Trump, traditional psych, today’s culture, and much more!
Jason & I talk with Integral Psychologist Mark Forman about his journey to Integral theory & transpersonal psychology, how it differs from traditional psych, Integral's four quadrants & levels/stages frameworks, Sam Harris's conversational challenges, perspective-shifting, his reflections on practicing psych, trauma, authoritarian tendencies on the left & right, Trump's cultural impact, the state of the IDW & Integral, his view on metamodernism, and the Freudian unconscious.
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Reinventing Organizations by Frederic Laloux
Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson Conversations
Sam Harris Podcast: WHAT IS TRUE?, Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson - Vancouver - 1, & Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson - Vancouver - 2
Ken Wilber: The Intellectual Dark Web, an Integral Conversation?
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#22 Meta-Rationality & Sexuality
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#22 Meta-Rationality & Sexuality
We talk with Jessica (@ssica3003) about her path to meta-rationality and how it relates to bisexuality & polyamory, her views on politics, cultural, and much more!
Jason & I have a wide-ranging chat with Jessica (@ssica3003) about her path to meta-rationality, her views on feminism, activism, post-modernism, men's rights, restorative vs retributive justice, utopian thinking, how meta-rationality relates & connects to bisexual life, polyamory, incels, cultural design, and much more!
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Jessica's blog and YouTube Channel
David Chapman & his website, Meaningness
Summary of Kegan Stage 5 Principles
#16 Mind Fitness & Gender with Chance Lunceford
Azathoth Egregore: "An Alien God"
#21 What's next for Both/And?
We talk about upcoming episodes, the Both/And Patreon launch, and the types of emergent collaboration that could arise from it.
Jason & I talk about upcoming episodes, the Both/And Patreon launch, and speculate about the types of emergent collaboration that will arise from it.
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Integral Theory, Ken Wilber & Four Quadrants
#17 Reflecting on Both/And Episodes & Themes
#20 What's Metamodern with Linda Ceriello & Greg Dember
Zero HP Lovecraft Twitter Thread
Rob Cobbold (Conscious Evo) Interview
Upcoming Guests
Jessica, Mark Forman, Justin Murphy, Paul Millerd, David Atkinson, Michael Brooks, Rob Cobbold of Conscious Evolution, Zero HP Lovecraft
#20 What's Metamodern
We talk with Linda Ceriello & Greg Dember about why they started What Is Metamodern?, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Listening Society, and much more!
Jason & I talk with Linda Ceriello and Greg Dember about metamodernism as a cultural sensibility, traditionalism, modernism, postmodernism, what led them to start What Is Metamodern?, metamodern methods that media commonly uses, the ways metamodernism is interpreted, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Listening Society, and much more.
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Article: After Postmodernism: Eleven Metamodern Methods in the Arts
Journal Article: Notes on metamodernism
Essay: Taxonomy of Metamodern Monsters in Linda's essay (pages 213-214 - login required)
Greg & Linda Suggestions
Playlist: Metamodern Music: Indie Rock 1995-2005
Video Essay: Rick and Morty: Character Archetypes & Metamodernism
Video Essay: Jose Chung's The Bridge to the Metamodern
Book: Metamodernism: Historicity, Affect, and Depth after Postmodernism
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#19 Contextualizing the Spiritual
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#19 Contextualizing the Spiritual
We talk with Jordan Hall about how spirituality relates to sovereignty, deep code, virtuous feedback loops, robots, intuition, the weird and much more.
Jason & I talk with Jordan Hall about how spirituality relates to sovereignty, deep code, virtuous feedback loops, individual & cultural development, the logos of robots, intuition, the weird, parenthood and more!
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Jordan's Article on Sovereignty
ALTER EGO Video - Can Extinction Rebellion Unlock Collective Sacrifice?"
Recommended Jordan Interviews
Zion 2.0 Podcast: Part 1 - Distributed Intelligence & Part 2 - Our Future Sense-Making
Emerge Podcast: Sovereignty, Resonance, and Liminality
Rebel Wisdom: Deep Code: Jordan (Green)Hall Documentary
The Jim Rutt Show: Interview
Other Life Podcast: Deep Code with Jordan Hall
Intellectual Explorers Podcast: Interview
#18 Changing Systems
We talk with Evan Driscoll about what leads to dysfunctional systems, coordination, contemplative practice & much more!
Jason & I talk with Evan Driscoll about what leads to dysfunctional systems, coordination, social isolation, habits & behaviors that create better collective action, following our passions, burnout, hedonism, contemplative practice & more.
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#17 Reflecting on Both/And
We reflect on past episodes, themes, and a laundry list of related topics we think are worth exploring more.
Jason & I reflect on recent episodes & themes, their evolving perspectives on memetic mediation, and a laundry list of related topics they think are worth exploring more.
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Episode #15 Being a Baha'i Creative with Samah Tokmachi
Episode #16 Mind Fitness & Gender with Chance Lunceford
Tweet: Diverging parallel realities
Book: The Elephant in the Brain: Hidden Motives in Everyday Life
Emerge Podcast Episode: Daniel Schmachtenberger - Utopia or Bust
Episode #10 Culture, Tech & Collaboration with Jess
Future Guests
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#16 Mind Fitness & Gender
We talk with Chance Lunceford about what led him to start podcasting & writing, how he approaches mastering the mind, and how gender impacts us.
Jason & I talk with Chance Lunceford about what led him to start podcasting & writing about how to live life to its fullest. Then, we talk about how Chance approaches mastering the mind and dive deep on how gender impacts us personally & collectively.
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Chance's Podcast: Logocentrifugal
#15 Being a Baha'i Creative
We talk with Samah Tokmachi about how the Bahai faith impacts his filmmaking career & life, our personal & societal shadows, & much more!
Jason & I talk with Samah Tokmachi about how the Bahai faith impacts his filmmaking career, many aspects of spiritual & religious life, our relationship with the ego, awakening, our personal & societal shadows, community building and more!
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#14 Paradigm Shifting
We talk with Erik Davis, thinker, author & podcast host about the effects of eclecticism, psychedelics, philosophy, spirituality, esotericism & much more.
Jason & I talk with Erik Davis, host of the Expanding Mind podcast, and author of the newly released book, High Weirdness. They discuss a wide range of topics, including eclecticism, psychedelics, philosophy, spirituality, existential dread, esotericism, capitalism meditation & more.
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Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher
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#13 Problematizing Food Systems
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#13 Problematizing Food Systems
We talk with Stephanie White about her research on urban food systems, local innovation & design, systems thinking, and more.
Jason & I talk with Dr. Stephanie White about her research on urban food systems. We discuss her work in Malawi, emergent/local innovation and design, systems thinking, cognitive justice, and more!
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Department of Community Sustainability
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#12 Translating Philosophy
We talk with Stephen West about his amazing podcast, Philosophize This!, how philosophy is useful, it's limitations, and Steve's process & mindset for shares ideas.
Jason & I talk with Stephen West about why he started the wildly successful Philosophize This! podcast. Then, we go on to talk about the ways philosophy can be useful, it's possible limitations, and dive deep on how Steve's process & mindset affect the way he understands & shares the ideas he covers in the podcast.
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#11 Simply Awake
We talk with David Collins about how his academic & contemplative backgrounds reveal commonalities of disparate contemplative practices, spiritual language, awakening in simple terms, and more.
Jason & I talk with David Collins about how his academic & contemplative backgrounds work together. Specifically, we cover the commonalities of contemplative practices from different religions & cultures, how fixating on spiritual language can be problematic, what awakening is in simple terms, and much more.
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#10 Culture, Tech & Collaboration
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#10 Culture, Tech & Collaboration
We talk with Jess about culture, social dynamics, social & digital tech interactions, crypto & collaboration, the paper clip maximizer, and more!
Jason, Jess (aka @utotranslucence) & I have a wide-ranging talk about San Francisco vs. Australian culture, social dynamics, analyzing movies, interactions between social and digital technologies, crypto and collaboration, being part of a paper clip maximizer, and much more!
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#9 Analyzing Both And
Nathan Snyder talks to us about why we started the Both/And, what our goals are, and then analyzes some of our answers.
In this experimental episode, Nathan Snyder talks to Jason & I about why we started Both/And and what goals we have for it. After the initial interview portion, Nathan analyzes some of the conversation using the Dialectic Thought Form Framework.
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